Food was not good and entertainment was also not updated The cleanliness was good and service was good
Nothing. You did not tell me that my itinerary has changed. I’m sleeping on the ground in the Middle East. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I’m also sure that you have no spine and will take no corrective action. I’m not sure your business will survive based on the lack of compassion you have.
Pros: "smoothing take off and landing"
Cons: "Food quality and variety is not good. Also, their serving speed is very poor. Boarding should be more informed and more organized upfront."
Pros: "Seats were ok but they often were out of vege options"
Cons: "I wanted to upgrade to business class but the process was problematic— had to be done at transfer desk not at gate — after i had been thru security ☹️ Discouraged ne from trying"
Pros: "On time departure and arrival. Hard working crew members."
Cons: "No slippers for long flights."
Cons: "At CKG, mobile boarding passes for international are not accepted by the security screening authority, which says only boarding passes printed at the counter are acceptable. The QR counter opens approximately 3.5~4 hours ahead of the departure of the airlines only flight from CKG."
Pros: "Plane quite empty so lots of space."
Cons: "Service not very attentive, had to repeatedly ask."
Cons: "maybe they can offer more snacks on the plain"
Pros: "Service and entertainment."
Pros: "The crew were nice and very helpful. Vegeterian meal was great"
Cons: "It was cold almost for everyone and everyone used blanket, some people asked for second blanket."
Pros: "On business class, so service was extraordinary"
Pros: "The crew were excellent."
Cons: "There is nothing I didnt like"
Pros: "Service, crew, food"
Cons: "Seats are small"
Pros: "Friendly crew and good food/drink service. Timely departure. Comfortable and spacious seating at the departure gate."
Cons: "Lack of crowd control at the gate during boarding. Ihad to"
Pros: "the attention in general for me was excellent."
Cons: "may be the fact that it was the same kind of food in both of the flights I had, is not that it was bad just in my opinion they should have more option, especially for south american people, thank you"
Pros: "Seat features. Extensive beverage and food menus. Great IFE system"
Cons: "Had to flag down crew for pre-departure beverage and hot towel. They are usually more attentive"
Pros: "the crew as more customer friendly, and it appeared they really take care of customer, not just put some words on paper."
Cons: "i have requested the child meal on the web site and also requested the seat preferences, however when i boarded the flight, i came to know that they have only honored the seat preferences but not the food. on the serving menu, the veg option was available but we informed that the veg is available only if we have requested it on the web site, i had to survive with add-on food but not the real meal. crew were struggling to serve food for us."
Pros: "I love the smiley flight attendant , especially for long distance flight. It would make it better trip to have smiley and helpful flight attendant. The meals provided by QA is good. it would be better with more fresh fruit on every meals."
Pros: "The staff was very friendly and went out of their way to find us vegetarian meals as our booking was incorrect. They had some good movies to watch that made the trip faster"
Cons: "Seats were uncomfortable and one can only eat vegetable curry so many times in a day. At one point I really just wanted dry cereal because rice and curry is not breakfast in my mind"
Pros: "Great crew members. Very friendly and helpful. Qatar Airways is great about providing pillows, blankets, ear plugs and eye masks. Really good food as well."
Cons: "The seats were very close together. With the tray folded out it was right against me without being extended. Leg room was cramped."
Pros: "Comfort of the seat/bed"
Pros: "The crew who were dedicated to our row came by and introduced themselves individually. They came frequently to ask for anything I required. They prompty responded to a request call. The lavatory to passenger ratio for Business class was excellent and I never had to wait for more than a minute. The food was very good but there is room for improvement."
Cons: "Some of the bread and croissants were not really fresh. Fresh fruits were also very limited and not properly ripened."
Pros: "The airline stewardesses were Fabulous! Especially one from Doha to Cape Town. Food was good and more than enough to eat. I was impressed by the scheduled meals and drink offers , very important for a dietetic"
Cons: "No leg room, can't stretch your legs properly so my bad knee was in pain"
Cons: "I did not like the fact that on now 3 flights I have lost miles, as on every flight I have tried to sign on as a member or frequent flyer and on all flights, there were no entry forms. This is also after my attempt to complete one on line, which I have had no response to."
Pros: "Flight was on time and departed as scheduled. Flight was comfortable and seats were decent. Would have liked a little bigger seats and more legroom in the economy seats"
Cons: "Food was not up to par and seats could have been a bit bigger for the economy bracket."
Pros: "I had aisle chair on a Moscow to Doha leg"
Cons: "I asked for aisle seat on all flights. They gave me window seats except Moscow to Doha leg"
Pros: "The flight went fairly smooth, the staff were courteous and the food was as good as can be expected of airline food. There were several courses and options, which is always appreciated."
Pros: "Crew are great and entertainment options are good."
Cons: "The seats are quite uncomfortable and small. Really struggled to get comfortable."
Pros: "my child was very sick on this flight and the air crew were very concerned and very helpful... i really appreciated all their concern and help. they consulted a doctor on the ground and provided the medicine and advice to bring my 3 year olds sickness under control... ( which included diarrhea and vomiting numerous times... please thank them for me... they were also concerned about her welfare after we would land.... thanks thanks thanks"
Pros: "Aircraft was much better than the flight from US, food was great. The only thing I wished for was more movies."
Cons: "Lack of movies"
Pros: "It was excellent."
Cons: "It was excellent."
Pros: "Crew were wonderful, spacious legroom."
Cons: "Boarding was crazy."
Pros: "Nothing at all"
Pros: "It was a good flight. I'd give it 4 of 5 stars."
Cons: "No upgrades. Worst flight."
Cons: "Worst customer service ever seen in my 15years of flying experience. Initially charged $1000 for 3 tickets for modification of return trip - confirmed the same and tickets issued (i'm fine with this). But, after i made arrangements for new date, I got a call saying calculation error and asked to pay another $500 leaving me no choices. How can such a reputed airline have no tools to calculate the pay? Other airlines offered one-way for half of the price i paid. On top of it, online helpdek promised front line seat to satisfy me but nothing was offered even if i ask explicitly. Simply declined saying i am not in priority list. Why do they make false promises? Friends, Just don't fly for food ....."
Cons: "Check in to the boarding lounge was a bit chaotic and there were a lot of angry customers yelling at airline staff. The process needs to be improved."
Pros: "The crew on the flight was excellent. They'll bring you pretty much anything reasonable you ask for. In flight entertainment options were many. I don't eat a lot of airline food, but the meals exceeded my expectations."
Cons: "I am quite tall (6'5"/1.92m), the in flight comfort was brutal. It'll take my knees a week or two to forget the constant jamming from the seat in front of me. Otherwise, on boarding was well organized, but very slow. Sound quality on provided headphones was very poor."
Pros: "Good staff and service"
Cons: "Require more leg room"
Pros: "Cabin crew courtesy."
Cons: "I have booked the flight for my mom and I requested a wheel chair her, she Has a broken arm . And I booked the flight with this company cos I thought they have a great service, but not what I expected, they didn't provide a wheel chair and she has to drag all the bag with one working arm , so I m not pretty satisfied with the trip at all and I won't fly with th company any more"
Pros: "On Time good service"
Cons: "Serving alcohol on board"
Cons: "Not allowing water on the flight made it extremely long and unbearable."
Pros: "The plane was neat, clean and the services was world class. I was made to feel at home with service always at my finger tips."
Cons: "Nothing to report."
Pros: "Good boarding. They do their best to make sure their passengers will be able to board the aircraft smoothly. Crew members are quite attentive and helpful."
Cons: "When making a review, I make comparisons with other airlines. I was expecting that Qatar Airways would be better than Emirates. It is my first time to fly Qatar airways, just to see if it's worth flying with this airline since it was the Best Airline in the world for 2015. But Emirates improved so much better that they overtaken the throne of Qatar Airways.. When you promise 5-star comfort and luxury, it should be what is promised.. Key points: 1.) Beverages should be served more than just twice during this 9 hour flight. It's a bit sarcastic that you flash a reminder on the screen that says "Keep Hydrated" but beverages were served only twice. I always had to ask for 2 glasses of water, overall 4 glasses of water on this 9 hour flight. And I can say that I got dehydrated. 2.) No hot towels for sanitary before food is served. I had to go to lavatory, wash my hands and put some alcohol before eating. Which is kinda hassle.. Sanitary is very important. 3.) I spent 8 hours layover in Doha before my flight to Milan. No complimentary meal. (Emirates provide complimentary meal if I have long layover in Dubai) 4.) I don't know if it's due to bad weather, but this flight, QR 933 was the roughest flight I have been on, not just short turbulence but long hours, maybe 3 hours. I was so dizzy and couldn't sleep. I signed up on privileged member club because I'm looking forward that Qatar would be the best choice for Airline. This review is just one of many reviews that should be looked at. Considering that you should continuously develop and aim to bounce back on the top. Do not settle for "okay", do not settle for second spot. Be the best, and compete for the first. Thank you for a safe flight. I'm looking forward for another flight with you. -Jerson Belir, first time flyer"
Cons: "Seats, unfriendly crew members, worst food "Hindu meal""
I always fly Turkish Airline. I like everything in Turkish Airline. Thx Thx Thx
I think they are doing a great job in maintaining customer experience. I am satisfied and look forward to fly with them again. But they need to train the crew to be more polite while they speak English.
Boarding was straightforward in IST, but security was strict (everyone's passport, boarding pass, and Covid tests were checked and re-checked 3 times within about 40 ft by 3 different sets of TK employees), with a final carry-on bag check with bomb nitrates swab for every passenger. And that was before boarding passes were scanned to step onto the plane. I first flew Turkish Airlines in 2005 and was extremely impressed. (The strict security process for flying to the US was much the same then as now, when they flew from the old Istanbul airport.) I have flown TK several times since and seen improvement, but not at the rate of its competitors, especially in the region. However, for my last trip (with a long leg between IST and LAX) they were half the price of other flagship carriers. Food quality, quantity and variety have declined, although that may be due to Covid restrictions. The lavatories remained clean but at least one ran out of TP & all other paper supplies half way to LAX. A couple of passengers (in economy, with me) took to using the business class lavatories and got into a dispute (real shouting match) with the flight attendants about it. (The passengers were in the wrong and escalating with unreasonable demands, but one flight attendant let his temper get the better of him. I didn't count but it seemed that there were fewer flight attendants on duty, with one being a fully robed "hygiene officer".) They did take Covid seriously, and distributed hygiene kits with masks, wipes, etc. to every passenger. If transiting through Istanbul before a long flight leg, consider using the airport hotel (YotelAir) within the terminal for international transfers (behind security). Reserve a room, as it was booked out when I last flew through. Otherwise, there are few places to sit down or rest once through to the International Transfers area.
Cons: "everything sucked time bery bad servive starfed on flight nonacolok was sergvedngypu ilt was really disappoinyling includigbymkthrvlounhr aothee airlione"
Pros: "Fortunately I was in an exit row, so I had legroom. Other seats were not very spacious."
Cons: "Arrived SF almost an hour late, then took an hour for luggage to arrive so we missed our next flight."
Pros: "Crew was not very frindly and the Turkish airlines staff at Istanbul are not at all friendly and so rude. I will never recommend Turkish airlines to anyone."
Pros: "The flight and crew were excellent. Turkish Airlines business is always good."
Cons: "The delay leaving Heathrow was not so good.... missed connecting flight in Istanbul and no availability on the night flight. Had to re-book with Air Astana."
Pros: "Seats were confortable but when we arrived in toronto, one of our invalid wheelchair was taken away and also had no crew member"
Cons: "Seats were confortable but when we arrived in toronto, one of our invalid wheelchair was taken away and also had no crew member"
Pros: "Better seats clean bathroom"
Pros: "Everything...the food was delicious, the staff was gracious and always went the extra mile."
Pros: "Service and food was excellent. Good choice of movies. Also liked the cleaning of bathrooms. Seemed like they cleaned after each person used it. Remarkable."
Pros: "The flight was on time and the crew was professional. The food and entertainment was good."
Cons: "It is too cramped in the toilets and seating area."
Pros: "Not as my expected"
Cons: "Check in team at airport very tuff and I have 9 kg only they let me pay full SR 450 which too high and generally all airlines they don’t ask u to pay like such weight as business class passenger. Quality of food, aircraft very old and seats not comfortable"
Pros: "Food was excellent! And plenty of it"
Cons: "Temperature way too warm"
Cons: "The airline lost my luggage. I have to wait two days for it's return."
Pros: "The food and the staff are excellent. 90% of the time I can get an exit row seat as I am 6 foot 2. I fly Turkish airlines frequently. This time the plane was full, so I understand that it was not possible."
Cons: "A passenger and his wife were not seated together, so the passenger wanted to stand in the isle and talk to his wife over the top of me for significant portions of the fight. In a full flight keeping passengers out of the isle os key. I know this was a difficult flight for the crew."
Pros: "Loved the entertainment options!"
Cons: "The crew seemed to be pretty busy"
Pros: "Sleeping accommodations, storage, crew attentiveness in business class was outstanding. 5he business lounge in Istanbul was the best ever. Great airline."
Pros: "Food was fine, and crew admirable. Good entertainment even without internet connection on flight."
Cons: "I’d change out the Mac and cheese at the prelanding meal. Service took awhile and I ended up in the zone in the back where choices were gone. Biggest factor was inability of phone center or inter et to check me in."
Cons: "Seats are extremely uncomfortable, tight, not functioning"
Cons: "Every flight is late boarding and taking off, connections are too close together and the set up of Istanbul's airport is nonsense. If you don't miss your connection it's because you ran and the flight took off late. Boarding is rushed because they started late"
Cons: "Chair are not working well"
Pros: "Screan for every passenger to play"
Cons: "After bus arrived at steps kept on it 20 mins. 2 more buses arrived in this time. Still wait. Then let out all at once. Massive queues to board. Poeple not dressed for this. Poor babies crying Maybe 15 mins waiting in 2am cold on tarmac."
Pros: "Better of most European airlines.. nice enough lounge and inflight service pretty good with room to improve for sure."
Cons: "Boarding was simply chaotic where staff isn’t managing the queue well separating business and economy. At arrival baggage priority meant nothing. Half the non priority bags arrived way before a massive batch of priority bags arrived. Defeats the purpose of giving your guest fast track immigration !"
Pros: "Flight was supper comfortable and food was amazing Thanks to chef and pilot. Everything was good If I get good price again I will definitely fly with Turkish all the time :)"
Cons: "Very noisy plain . I could hear the air sounds only the bad thing was bothering me"
Pros: "Confortable, great food, great crew as normal."
Cons: "The crew normally would get five stars for being super friendly, but they seemed a bit more like staff on other airlines this time around."
Pros: "Comfort, food, staff, everything"
Pros: "Everything was great!"
Pros: "Service was professional and they did their job well"
Cons: "The things that they can improve upon: - Better tasting, not chewy meatballs - Providing salad dressing - Water absolutely had weird odor - Omelette was not tasty at all, as if it came from an industrial machine"
Pros: "Super friendly staff, lots of real food to eat, travel kits including slippers and tooth brush, like a throwback to when flying was fun."
Cons: "Food was dried out and tasteless"
Pros: "As above"
Cons: "As above"
Pros: "I used the prime lounge in Istanbul and when it was time to go, I was able to practically walk on the plane without any wait. The seats were comfy and didn't have a ton of legroom but it wasn't bad. The staff we're friendly and helpful. The in-flight entertainment had a pretty impressive selection and had one of the best-designed interfaces I've seen so far (and I've ridden a variety of airlines). Last and most important, the food was hands down the BEST I've had on a plane. Turkish is killing it, they're my new go-to airline!"
Cons: "I really can't complain about anything, even if I try! Maybe the touch screen sensitivity on the entertainment console seemed a little off, but that's just nitpicking"
Cons: "Leaving 2 hours late from Istanbul and arriving 2 hours late at SFO, jeopardizing the Shuttle pickup arrangement."
Pros: "Crew service, as it was a big airobus, half plenty it was very comfortable to be there"
Cons: "lateness at least 40 minutes, while nobody from staff I was worrying about corresponding flight,"
Pros: "I always enjoy flying with Turkish airlines it is a breeze from check in all the way destination from food to entertainment it all runs so smooth I will fly with u any day so far that is the best"
Pros: "Everything worked well. Service, food, entertainment, et all."
Cons: "nothing was amiss."
Pros: "I liked the dates and time, the food and it was over all a good flight"
Pros: "I really enjoyed the service! The crew was great! Everything I needed they attended to with outstanding service. At first I was skeptical about using Turkish Airlines, afterwards I would definitely fly with them again no question. The only thing I would say was bad about the trip was the guy that got me sick haha but that wasn't Turkish Airlines fault. Thank you Turkish Airlines! Ashtiano Reinaldo"
Cons: "I honestly can't point anything out."
Pros: "Food was good. Flight was fast. On time."
Cons: "There was no entertainment on the first flight at all. Seats are very cramped"
Pros: "Standard business seats for short distance. Roomy seats ( business class) . Good service with breakfast."
Cons: "No entertainment system in seat"
Cons: "Leg space a nighrmare!! Was uncomfortable for all the 13 hrs of the flight. Terrible experience"
Pros: "It was a 12 or 13 hour flight and except for sitting too much we were never uncomfortable. The service level made me think we were back in the 80's. Hot towels, attentive service, tons of food and free drinks. There was actually one meal that we would have eaten even if it wasn't on a plane. They gave out full size blankets and pretty fluffy pillows. (I bring our own anymore, because you never know if you will get one on most airlines, and if you do they're usually useless). Their entertainment system was amazing. We caught up on all the recently released movies that we've wanted to see for FREE! If only Netflix had this quality of movie offerings. They had fresh flowers in the huge bathrooms. It's that type of attention to detail you just really don't see anymore."
Cons: "Can't think of a thing that could actually be changed."
Pros: "Service when it was done"
Cons: "Infrequent service Crowded Entertainment system bad"
Pros: "For such a long flight, I appreciate the airline's consistent service and determination to make sure everything was pleasant as possible. By the way, it was an 11 hour flight to Atlanta. I have no regrets on choosing Turkish airlines for my trip and I look forward to my remaining trips with this airline."
Cons: "I do not believe it was the fault of the airline, but I was unable to access Wi-Fi at Ataturk Intl. Airport."
Thank you very much kayak
Pros: "They an amazing crew"
Cons: "They need to improve on the flight check-in and boarding at thier airport in Bole, it is so messy. Also thier inflight menu is nothing special"
Pros: "seat not comfortable"
Cons: "more drinks along the way"
Pros: "Crew was helpful. I had 3 seats to myself, so yes. Seating was amazing."
Cons: "The lunch - tooo much rice no sauce. Food was okay. The sandwich was good."
Pros: "The seats were very comfortable and generally this flight is comfy"
Cons: "The queue during boarding is very long, they need to add counters"
Pros: "Champagne; boarding via SATS business class was smooth but I doubt Ethiopian has much responsibility or this."
Cons: "The rest: even mediocre fast food would have been better. The starter was some chewy rosebeef, the main where soggy chicken nuggets. The butter served was rancid! Gross. Also big difference between the older and newest 787! This was the older☹️. Ground crew unhelpful."
Pros: "The staff was nice and helpful"
Cons: "We were so extremely delayed"
Pros: "The ravioli was great, some of the other food was not great. Otherwise, the flight was easy."
Cons: "More entertainment options, the movies and TV shows offered are not varied or very good."
Pros: "Food was of high standard Crew were polite and made the effort to make passengers feel comfortable"
Cons: "Boarding - Two last minute changes to departure gates, which confused the hell out of everyone. No announcement, just one staff shouting out to passengers."
Pros: "It was a comfortable flight with good intertainment."
Cons: "The food could be better."
Cons: "Old flight - equipments were not in order like the handrest was broken, TV’s were broken and not functioning, touch screens failed to react to touch, signs on buttons at the handrest were smudged. 3 out of 6 washrooms in Economy class were not working. At one instance I was locked in the washroom as the door was not opening from inside, until I had to call the attendant. Entertainment options were limited. Food was below average. In one of my meals I got opened and melted butter. Cabin crew was not responding to the calls when I needed water. I finally got it after ringing 4 bells and 45 minutes. Overall, a terrible experience and would not choose to fly with Ethiopian again."
Pros: "Everything was great."
Cons: "Flight was delayed again. No priority boarding for Star Alliance members. Staff was unfriendly."
Pros: "Nice crew"
Cons: "Poor registration, Long queue for bagage scanning in very hot airport Aircraft and business seat just medium"
Cons: "The whole thing was a disaster. I lost my connection flight due to incompetence from the Ethiopian airlines representative"
Pros: "friendliness of staff. special attention given to my 22 mo old granddaughter. adorable!"
Pros: "It is an African airline so I am doing my best to support it. I am grateful I was allocated to a hotel for my long layover"
Cons: "I had a long layover in Addis and the hotel I was allocated to could improve its service. I was expected to be served breakfast in the morning. My flight was at 820 am There could be some improvement on food"
Cons: "Waiting for customer service"
Cons: "Transfer at Addis Ababa was horrendous - no help from ground staff and the airport was a confusing mess. The landing in cape town was very rough and jumpy."
Cons: "we were seating 2 hours at the aircraft with no electricity an then they move us to another aircraft and totally we arrived Nairobi more than 3 hours delay"
Pros: "The crew members are very friendly, always smiling and attentive."
Cons: "The entertainment system needs an upgrade. Touch screens unresponsive."
Cons: "The headphones weren’t working and boarding at Addis was very poor. They should have more personal when checking before the Gates"
Pros: "Brand New Aircraft"
Pros: "Like the online check in and quick bag drop at the aiport"
Cons: "Food could have been much better with less processed foods"
Cons: "Everything was bad, very upset !"
Pros: "The flight was on time and they fed us well."
Cons: "Nothing really."
Cons: "Chairs were not reclining. Asked for blanket and didn't get one so I was cold."
Cons: "Please have a vegetarian option that does not contain cheese."
Cons: "Crew was not friendly and seemed to ignore my requests. Seat was not comfortable. Food was okay."
Cons: "They almost didnt let me on the plane after THEY messed up by not including my ticket number on my ticket. I had to call my parents in Washington DC from Nairobi, have them drive out to Dulles airport and work it out at the Ethiopian office there to give the OK for me to get checked in in Nairobi. The whole process took about four hours and three managers all while I was stewing, worried I wouldnt make it on my flight."
Pros: "I liked the interaction of the cabin crew with the passengers. They were helpful and responsive."
Cons: "I was disappointed with the limited entertainment options on board."
Pros: "Friendly crew very responsive."
Pros: "Staff was friendly. Airplane was clean, new and well maintained"
Cons: "The airport was disorganized. the boarding process was chaotic to say the least."
Pros: "Absolutely nothing"
Cons: "My flight was only for refugees and was delayed by 8 hours, however airport staff did not have it on their manifest, and Ethiopian never informed me of status. I just sat in the airport all night until I eventually got frustrated and went home. The airline had no idea I was in the airport and no Ethiopian staff were present to speak with. When I and my family called Ethiopian, they hung up on us, at least 6 times. This was my worst experience ever and I will never fly Ethiopian airlines again."
Pros: "In entabe the way everything is done was very good the food on that day was not good"
Pros: "Crew on flight were very nice and responding."
Cons: "The flight was delayed but they didn't tell us, they kept saying we are about to board the flight in a few minute. eventually it was an hour late. It's not a big delay but the way they acted like they didn't know anything and didn't tell us anything was not OK. Other then that flight was fine. there is no electricity or multimedia and not even a USB charge!"
Pros: "Comfortable. Crew excellent. On time. Efficient on boarding and landing - good information throughout"
Cons: "Addis Ababa airport very crowded with no seat available for five hour stopover. Food outlets limited"
Pros: "The staff on Ethiopian airlines is great. Food was palatable."
Cons: "Boarding from the front and back of the plane is a terrible idea, especially when the gate agents allow most of the aircraft to board at the same time. Also, on flights longer than three hours, they should use a plane with more entertainment (bigger plane). It was cramped and uncomfortable both legs."
Pros: "The food. And the on board entertainment. Staff was also nice but a little bit sloppy and slow."
Pros: "Flight was on time"
Pros: "I did like the overall services. I was comfortable with the crew and was entertained. I enjoyed the night over in the fhoice of loudging with nazra Hotel."
Cons: "I didn't like the quality of food in the hotel panaroma on my return. The hotel needed air refreshner as it wae stuffy and difficult to breath in. The reception was excellent but poor service."
Cons: "security boarding in adis abeba"
Pros: "The friendliness of the crew and their spirit of hospitality make this company stand our from others. Also the new aircrafts and the amenities on board are a big plus."
Pros: "Excellent staff, professional and friendly. Nice food"
Cons: "Aircraft "medium" range with business seat not very comfortable. No special attention to business class passengers at arrival"
Cons: "Addis Airport is terribly organized and far too small for the volume of people they're pushing through it (which is probably the lead cause of the poor organization)."
Cons: "Very very old aeroplane"