Daily cleaning, installation of cabin HEPA filters on flights from Nuremberg to Johannesburg
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Scores according to KAYAK customer reviews
Pros: "The crew is excellent but the seats are not comfortable enough. There should be a way to balance money and comfort,not just placing people in seats they do not fit into"
Cons: "Nothing,just the seats. Cleanliness was perfect"
Pros: "Terrific hot breakfast in bus. class"
Cons: "Window did not darken like the others."
Pros: "The crew tried to be helpful but were equally frustrated with the ground crew."
Cons: "Follow your own policies. Allow people to board (economy plus) with their hand luggage who have followed all the rules and chosen a seat in the front of the plane. My daughter and my KLM approved baggage were taken by the boarding crew while allowing other passengers to go with more than allowed"
Cons: "Seats in economy section are very close together . There is not enough room for knees...especially for such a long trip."
Cons: "Flight got cancelled"
Pros: "Crew helpful. Food good."
Cons: "Better range of movies please"
Pros: "Crew were great"
Pros: "Great crew, comfortable seating with enough leg room."
Cons: "Provide dinner before getting to joburg, instead of a snack. Flight arrives late so dinner would be appreciated"
Pros: "Seat was uncomfortable. There was nothing to like. In past I have traveled by KLM but this time it was worst."
Cons: "No proper food service. Even to the passenger of Amsterdam no dinner was served. No inflight service. It looks like domestic flight. I will think twice to travel by KLM. The check-in staff at counter was absolutely arrogant. Staff ar boarding gate was nice."
Pros: "The crew is really welcoming"
Cons: "The seats are too narrow and a bit too hard"
Cons: "Lost a single baggage item, a car seat. Critical for us to leave the airport, and delayed us for over an hour upon arrival. Gave us a loaner car seat that barely fit our child."
Cons: "If only there was a way to be able to lie down and sleep - you would be pioneers in aviation"
Cons: "The flight was cancelled and had to be rerouted on United Airlines."
Cons: "I booked tickets via Delta, operated by KLM. They lost both of my check in bags in September, and it happened again today for the same scheduled flights. Had 4 hours of layover and KLM still wasn’t able to manage it."
Pros: "Service was great as usual. Food was very good and entertainment options were great so you won't have to be bored throughout the trip."
Pros: "We got to Amsterdam on time"
Cons: "1. Paying for the seats we chose...that will never happen again...I'll fly another airline first. 2. The food was terrible. I have flown KLM for years, this was not what I expected. 3. The plane was very dirty"
Pros: "Short flight and being able to escape from drunk belligerent Passenger on previous flight"
Cons: "wasn't able to take the flight since I missed it"
Cons: "I’ve traveled a lot internationally and this was the WORST flight I’ve ever had to endure. I felt like I was being tortured and didn’t sleep at all and so slept when getting into Amsterdam rather than being able to explore the city. I was out $200 for the Airbnb (could’ve stayed in the airport cheaper) and $200 for a dinner cruise I slept through. NEVER AGAIN"
Cons: "Very slow service at checkin, was not even available when I arrived at the airport"
Cons: "Services was pretty weird .. Perse or crew Leader was ok But the assistent Young one was Really bad.. aptitud and not friendly at all."
Pros: "The food rocks! I know that I will always be eating well with KLM. The staff is always so nice, professional and cordial...I always know I'll be in good hands with the flight. KLM #605 from Amsterdam to SFO---please pass the praise to all of them."
Pros: "Easy flight; loved the crew and their friendly customer service. Great food, kept everyone hydrated and fed."
Cons: "The movie options, as well as music and TV options were limited. There were no electrical outlets."
Pros: "Good entertainment options. Nice flight attendants"
Cons: "It would be helpful for short people to be able to adjust the head rest lower on the seat. More recent released movies would be helpful. More leg room. Not charging more money to choose seats."
Pros: "More than adequate room, And very good service from a very professional staff. Head and shoulders abovevany American carrier, and several European lines I have flown."
Cons: "Can't think of anything."
Cons: "KLM staff in the Prague airport were some of the rudest humans I have ever met. So incredibly uncaring and outright mean."
Pros: "We were fed a nice pasta meal and offered drinks twice. They also gave a muffin for desert. The flight attendants were very nice and attentive with cheerful smiles. I wish every airline had service this good!"
Pros: "Food was excellent, frequent and filling"
Cons: "The seat was not comfortable compared to my prior leg of the journey. Unfortunately the bathrooms were not clean, I understand that it's not the sole responsibility of the crew and passengers need to be mindful too."
Pros: "Flight was delayed for 15 min resulting in passengers rushing to make their connecting flights.but staff kept passengers informed."
Cons: "Flight departing late."
Pros: "Good Experience"
Cons: "Nothing much"
Pros: "787 is a great airplane. The 3-3-3 seat configuration leaves enough seat width to be just comfortable in coach."
Pros: "had problems checking in , in that I was charged for a suitcase! I have since checked my paper work and found thad that I had paid for a case! I will follow this up when I return to the UK"
Pros: "The flight was very good, specially considering it was a daylight one. Staff was friendly and servicial. Tue food was above the industry's average."
Cons: "KLM can't seem to figure out the order of boarding the plane. Should be business - priority - everyone else. Instead they do priority first, and that's usually two-thirds of the passengers. Also, really tired of the fake business class on these flights..."
Pros: "Of the multiple international airlines I recently flew with, I would have to say KLM was by far the best. Relaxing atmosphere, comfortable seating, great in-flight entertainment, although I have the go-go in-flight data/entertainment plan with t-mobile (highly recommended), the flight included a decent selection of movies, television programs, etc. The food far exceeded typical "airline quality," even for an international flight - and included a fabulous little snack box with locally sourced gourmet and specialty items such as chocolate from Belgium, fine cheeses from France, and crackers from England. Drinks = gratis, and crew was exceptionally attentive and went out of their way to make flight as pleasant as possible."
Cons: "They didn’t let us board the plane. Allegedly the plane was changed and make us travel by train!! They offered us a compensation but we haven’t heard from them yet. Not good experience at all."
Cons: "Klm flight has very congested seating Getting information about eticket was pain"
Pros: "Professional, friendly service. Punctual, safe flight. Comfortable, spotless airplane."
Cons: "What is there not to like about KLM? I cannot find anything."
Pros: "Speed, crew, and reliability."
Cons: "Food wasn't good, no entertainment or accessory plug ins, and seats were worn out! Not comfortable at all. Great leg room though."
Pros: "staff hospitality, cleanness of the cabin and toilet and punctuality of the flight"
Cons: "lack of meal options"
Pros: "Boarding was very efficient."
Cons: "Limited movie selection. Crew seemed stressed. Gave me wrong meal and then swaped for the right one. I asked for Diet Coke and was given white wine. Food quality was not good."
Cons: "I requested low fat meals. The first one, was OK. But they forgot my request for the second one."
Pros: "Great smooth flight staff was pleasant and the overall experience was fantastic."
Pros: "It's the best flight I could get for such a low price. But don't expect to to get the best and newest planes around but it's still overall a good experience."
Cons: "Quite bummed that the flight didn't have wifi / USB):"
Pros: "Good food, good entertainment system, comfortable seating."
Cons: "Only one toilet working in business class. A crew member told me that it was a decision to fly with only one toilet to ensure no delay. There was a disgusting stench of sewerage for the complete flight from Amsterdam to Johannesburg. This was in all likelihood due to the broken toilet on the left side."
Pros: "They flew full speed to catch up with the delays."
Cons: "Departure was scheduled with one hour delay. When everyone was boarded they mentioned a leaking toilet. It took them 1,5 hours to disable the toilet. In the mean time, no drinks, no snacks, nothing. So we should depart at 18:00 but it became 19:30. Our first drinks and meal was no earlier then 21:00. The crew should have anticipated better that the technical problem would at least take one hour and give everyone a drink at least."
Pros: "...The transfer at JFK was terrible"
Pros: "Great food and movies."
Cons: "Might have lost my bag. I was told not to claim my bag and that it would meet me at my final destination. That did not happen. I even paid extra because of the over weight. When they charge you 100 extra euro you expect your bag to make it to its final destination."
Cons: "I not get to go my flight, I couldn't get reimbursement"
Cons: "tout est à revoir !"
Pros: "The crew"
Cons: "The time. The flight was late for 1 hour. I miss everything and also I get very late to our Airbnb and I was with my family and child"
Pros: "Exit row seat had much more space for legs, very much worth the upcharge for this seat."
Cons: "Cabin temperature was very cool for me. Never used a blanket on an international flight before, and used a blanke on this whole 9 hour flight. Maybe a function of the seat location? Not sure but I was cold."
Cons: "Very cramped seat on the TGV train. I will definitely choose and pay a seat on my own next time, rather than accepting the on picked by Air France... And it will be cheaper, too!"
Pros: "Spacious business class seats, excellent meals"
Cons: "Lack of ventilation in cabin, and staff refusal to turn heaters down (in September), very limited entertainment options."
Pros: "Entertainment system"
Cons: "Awoke to find ill man laying on floor in aisle next to me with oxygen. Shortly after... Passenger in seat near man on floor (diabetic but no one tells us anything) needs to lay across four seats with oxygen for heart issues for remainder of trip with staff and doctor on board nearby. Nevdr informed what was happening, never offered to move our seats or move iIl passengers. Glad all turned out ok. Could have given them more privacy and better informed other passengers."
Pros: "Not much, seats are super uncomfortable"
Cons: "Better code sharing with KLM"
Cons: "the tray was broken and the water felt all over. the flight was 1 hr delayed. All of us stood the 1 hr waiting to know what's next. We could sit."
Cons: "This was one of the worst flights I’ve been on. Both planes were downright filthy. The flight from Dallas to Barcelona had several broken toilets. Flight from Paris to Barcelona boarded and once everyone was on board, they told us that we would be sitting there for 2 hours before leaving."
Pros: "Great newer plane, great service!"
Pros: "Incredible staff. Super polite"
Pros: "Flight attendant was rude to my non French speaking 12 year old. He ripped his charger out of the USB port and threw it at him."
Cons: "TSA was sketchy and gave a FULL search, part down, etc. I kept asking and the excuse kept changing. Final excuse ridiculous! Flight attendant could have not treated my son as he way he did. I was unaware that the usb cord being inputted during taxiing As was my son. He was horrible to him!!"
Cons: "Placed in last row w/ non-reclining seats, even though bought tix 7 months early. We travel w/ only carry-on bags. AF allows 35 kg each but only 12 kg in cabin. I asked, online, twice, if we could have a couple of extra kg for hand pieces. Rec’d only auto. luggage policy. Forced to check both bags."
Pros: "Crew was amazing. Service and food was good."
Cons: "Random TSA check was not needed at the end when boarding."
Cons: "Not really an Air France flight, AF not interested in taking care of their frequent fliers."
Pros: "Fantastic Crew!"
Cons: "Seats are comfortable but tight."
Cons: "Flight was delayed by at least an hour leaving Paris - a regular situation I experienced with AF."
Cons: "Arrived 5 hours late"
Pros: "Crew was nice movie selection was good."
Cons: "Plane was late which caused a 5 hour layover in Paris CDG. Food not very good. Entertainment system clumsy to operate."
Pros: "Over all pretty good for price."
Cons: "Tiny uncomfortable seats."
Cons: "Flight was delayed, seated in the last row and non adjustable seating, so very little leg room. Dis-enbarkment was very slow."
Pros: "Direct flight from Indy to CDG is great. The plane was not so full, so I hope business improves so we can keep it going. Very smooth flight, with good and friendly crew."
Pros: "Nice staff, very professional and helpful."
Pros: "We got to the desk to check in and there was one person being served in front of us. He finished with him, turned and left the area through the dooor. No one came to help us for 15 minutes. Then they came out to answer the phone and said we were 10 minutes past the cut off and we could not fly."
Cons: "Staff just walked away while we were in line, the rudeness and mean attitude, they blamed us for being too late after ignoring us and made us late, they didn't offer an alternative flight until we asked. Overall, horrible customer service. Never been treated so rudely by people in the airlines industry in my entire 42 years of flying!"
Pros: "I liked the crew, they were professional and tried their best"
Cons: "The flight was a chartered flight . Air France informed us that due to cabin crew shortage they couldn't operate an air france flight and hence they hired Air Belgium. Whilst the crew were nice , the actual plane was old and creaky. It wasn't up to the standards expected of Air France. They could have done better in getting a plane up to standard. A lot of the passengers were disappointed ."
Cons: "Screen broke half way through flight. Food was poor"
Cons: "CDG is a monster. The distances are long . The signage is poor and when I asked for directions the diirections I got were wrong."
Pros: "The quality of service from the staff and their courtesy. A great asset of the airline."
Cons: "My luggage was left behind - this despite my being lifetme platinum."
Cons: "Booked assistance and got dumped at the gate 3hrs before departure, no English spoken and didn't even ask if my mum needed the bathroom or if we wanted to do some shopping. Just in a rush to get rid of us. Flying only KLM from now."
Pros: "I didn’t actually liked the entertainment"
Cons: "I just didn’t enjoy the entrainment."
Pros: "This is what happens when you get roped in by a low price."
Cons: "Disorganization which led to not being able to pre-purchase baggage. Then bad info at airport which led to multiple trips through security trying to make weight on a bag that should have been checked but was told didn't need to. Ended up missing flight, having to rebook at full fare and no one knows where the bag that was checked is. STAY AWAY!"
Pros: "It was Amazing staff helpfull and fresh.. love it"
Cons: "Flight of almost 3 hours was not entreteiment at all just magazines."
Cons: "My baggage was broken"
Pros: "Missed connection and it was airport not Delta that was the problem. Not a good way to start a vacation. Rating is for the Paris Airport, not the flight crew or Air France employees. Still sitting in the airport when we should be at our destination."
Cons: "Hundreds of people missed their flights. Delta had us into Paris with an hour and a half to get to connecting flight. Missed flight due to huge delay in passport approval. They seemed completely unprepared."
Pros: "Being able to have my meal at the airport before my flight so that I could sleep in comfort."
Pros: "Crew and boarding, not much else to talk about. Late for take off, but made it on time"
Cons: "Late leaving and arriving."
Pros: "Airplane staff were good"
Pros: "Service was much better than on the flight from MIA to CDG 3 weeks before - that was very poor. Entertainment was excellent - great selection of movies. Premium Economy was definitely worth the upgrade cost."
Cons: "Boarding was a complete debacle - no control over who went where. Sky Priority line was full of 50 people who weren't Sky Priority, and there was only one person checking passports. The two people at the desk didn't care when I noted this. We were called to the desk in advance of boarding to check passport information. When we got to the check in line, we were taken aside for more passport checking, even though we are US citizens with Trusted Traveler status in the GOES program. We were one of the first people at the departure lounge, and one of the the last to board."
Pros: "The flight crew was excellent. My husband and I flew economy and I saw the crew keep passengers well fed (several meals and snacks) and were attentive to everyone's needs and all done with a smile. I thought the hot towels for cleansing our hands before meals was a very nice touch!"
Pros: "Disorganised and slow"
Cons: "Couldn't organise a booze up in brewery. Baggage offload took forever"
Pros: "Excellent choice of movies. Great service. Friendly crew."
Cons: "I requested a lacto-ovo vegetarian meal, which I received. However, it appears the meal was also vegan. Normally, that would be okay except one of the two standard meal choices was also vegetarian and seemed much better. Since I had selected lacto-ovo vegetarian, it seems I was not allowed to select the standard vegetarian option. Hard not to have cheese on an Air France flight - just saying :-)"
Pros: "movies were great, watched a lot of them food, while nothing to write home about, was at least tasty and not inedible the staff was great, friendly, welcoming, hard working loved that we could have wine and snacks"
Cons: "we had paid for the exit row and had a luxurious amount of room. But when we tried to sleep, our fellow passengers came and stood at our feet and talked so loudly that we could not possibly sleep. They stayed there for more than an hour. Would have loved for the staff to maybe ask them to tone it down, if not move."
Pros: "After riding in premium economy for the 8 hour flight we had, this one wasn't the same. No tvs, way less leg room, we were able to have a window seat which was great for my sister since before we didn't have the window seat option. The snack was good also."
Cons: "After riding in premium economy for the 8 hour flight we had, this one wasn't the same. No tvs, way less leg room."
Pros: "Croissants instead of pretzels was a nice change of snack"
Cons: "Computer failure rendered the check in process a total mess. Staff seemed utterly at a loss and also totally unprepared for this very early and very full flight. Most passengers seemed to have multiple bags to check. Since this is a regular flight it was hard to understand why check in staff wandered in late when time was already tight - let alone having a system failure as well to deal with. We were 50 minutes late leaving. This resulted in many of us either missing or having extremely tight (stressful) connections at CDG Paris."
Pros: "Same as above, the crew was very friendly and the food was great."
Cons: "Seating was cramped and uncomfortable for a tall person."
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